Bailey Identification
The following tables provide a summary breakdown of identifying characteristics and markings of the Bodies, Frogs and Receivers, Lateral Adjustment Levers, and Lever Caps on Stanley’s Bailey line of bench planes. Features are broken down by type.[1] These tables provide a helpful quick reference guide for identifying type. Please see the full Type Study and Plane Chart pages for additional information, including dates.
Stanley Bailey Plane – Identifying Characteristics
Bed Markings & Identification |
Type 1-3 |
No Marking |
Type 4 |
Many have a foundry number (“73”, “71”) cast into the bed behind the frog |
Type 5-6 |
The plane model number added; smaller planes at the toe, #5 and up on the heel |
Type 7 |
Numbers spaced further apart, ‘S’ foundry mark stamped behind frog |
Type 8 |
B’ foundry mark behind frog |
Type 9 |
2 patent dates behind frog: MAR-25-02, AUG-19-02, ‘Bailey’ at toe, straight frog rib |
Type 10 |
2 patent dates behind frog, rib at frog seat is now arched |
Type 11-12 |
3 patent dates behind frog; MAR-25-02, AUG-19-02, APR-19-10 |
Type 13 |
1 patent date behind frog: APR-19-10 |
Type 14 |
1 patent date behind frog. MADE IN U.S.A. cast at toe, raised ring for knob |
Type 15 |
MADE IN U.S.A. behind frog, BAILEY cast behind knob |
Type 16 |
Raised, broad, flat rib cast at toe and heel |
Type 17 |
Heavier, thicker castings |
Type 18 |
Return to normal castings |
Type 19 |
Y shaped frog receiver |
Type 20 |
Blue colored japanning |
Frogs & Receivers |
|
Receiver |
Frog Back |
Frog Adj |
Lateral |
Screws |
Type 1-2 |
“I” Shape |
Round |
No |
None |
Round |
Type 3 |
Vertical |
Round |
No |
None |
Round |
Type 4 |
Flat |
Round |
No |
None |
Flat |
Type 5 |
Flat |
Arched |
No |
1 Piece |
Flat |
Type 6-8 |
Flat-2 Grooves |
Arched |
No |
2 Piece |
Flat |
Type 9 |
Straight Rib |
Arched |
No |
2 Piece |
Flat |
Type 10-15 |
Arched Rib |
Arched |
Yes |
2 Piece |
Flat |
Type 16-18 |
Arched Rib |
Ogee |
Yes |
2 Piece |
Flat |
Type 19-20 |
“Y” Shape |
Ogee |
Yes |
2 Piece |
Flat |
Lateral Lever Markings |
|
Type 5 |
1885-1888 |
One piece construction w/ 2 patent dates: 2-8-76 & 10-21-84, no Stanley mark |
Type 6-7 |
1888-1899 |
Two piece with disc and 3 patent dates: 2-8-76, 10-21-84, 7-24-88 |
Type 8 |
1899-1902 |
One patent date: 7-24-88 |
Type 9+ |
1902-1947 |
No patent dates on adjustment lever |
Type 19 |
1948-1961 |
Stanley engraved vertically on lever |
Lever Caps |
|
|
Back |
Hole |
Logo |
Finish |
Cam |
Edges |
Notes |
Type 1 |
Solid |
Keyhole |
None |
Nickel |
1 3/16 |
Rounded |
Banjo Spring |
Type 2 |
Solid |
Keyhole |
None |
Nickel |
1 3/16 |
Rounded |
|
Type 3-11 |
Hollow |
Keyhole |
None |
Nickel |
1 3/16 |
Rounded |
|
Type 12 |
Hollow |
Keyhole |
None |
Nickel |
1 3/32 |
Sharper |
|
Type 13-16 |
Hollow |
Kidney |
Notched |
Nickel |
1 3/32 |
Sharper |
|
Type 17-20 |
Hollow |
Kidney |
Notched |
None |
1 3/32 |
Sharper |
|
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1. Smith, Roger, Patented Transitional & Metallic Planes In America, Vols. I & II, 1992
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Hi I have a Stanley Bailey No 3
Made in USA
On the black cast there are 2 letters: 4 and U
I do not have any other numbers on it.
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Not a lot to go on, but assuming it’s actually a Stanley and not a mixed parts plane, it’s a Type 15 or later.
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Could Stanley have made a type 7, 4 1/2 that didn’t have an s stamped in the cast body?
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Absolutely! The foundry markings were not absolute, nor are the dates applied to the “Types” hard and fast.
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Thanks for the reply! Could I send you some photos, in itser for you to tell me what you think?
Thanks again!
Matt
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Sure! Send them to vatoolworks@gmail.com.
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I have a Stanley number 5 with a letter and the number 2 cast under the tote but I never seen anything about number 2 being cast under tote. Also I have a no 2 with nothing cast into the bed at all and it has a type 5 frog but the bottom is corrugated. Any significance on the no 5 and dud the no 2 come out prior to 1899 listed for larger planes with corrugated bottoms
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There’s nothing significant about the number 2 cast under the tote. As for the #2C, those were manufactured starting in about 1898.
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Have a Stanley Bailey #5 that appears to by a type 14 with a V cast under the tote. Any significance?
Thanks
Ed
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Hi Ed. I’ve seen an A down there under the tote before, but not a V. Either way, it’s a pattern number and pretty much meaningless today.
Bryant
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Was the kidney-hole lever cap introduced with Type 13, or introduced with Type 16? Thanks
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They kidney hole was introduced with Type 16.
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I have a brand new – never taken out of box Stanley Bailey 12-017 22 x 2 3/8″ plane in perfect condition. What is it worth to sell and do you have any info on how rare it is or when it was made? Guessing the 80’s..
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Joseph, I don’t have much experience with the modern Stanleys, but can tell you they are not rare and tend to be of less value than the older ones. I would think one new in the box might bring around $50 to $75 on eBay, but that’s just a guesstimate.
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I saw 2 planes today for sell the one a Shelton i bought but the other which looked a number 5 with the most worn out blade i ever saw and it was a S. W. blade however no visual marking . my ? then did Stanley make a plane without identification.i do not understand what is meant by type as i just refer to my planes w/ the no. on them.
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Stanley didn’t start casting the model number into the bed until around 1885 (the pre-lateral adjustment years), so you may have come across a very old one.
Types are just a modern reference that mark the progression of feature changes through time. For a more detailed explanation, try this – https://virginiatoolworks.com/2012/07/12/understanding-type-studies/
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I have a 4 1/2 without a patent date on the frame . Was this common ?ro
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Yes, Patent dates were only included from about 1902 to 1931. Before 1902 and after 1931 there were no patent dates on the beds of Stanley planes.
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Thanks for the reply..
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I have an unidentified #5…1918750 pat on the lever cap,NO date,stanley usa only…the tote and front knob sit on top of a casting…the front of the frog has a U stamped into it on the left hand side..Kidney shaped cap hole..and the screws that secured the knob and tote are NOT BRASS (first time i have seen it)..i dont think it has any finish because it was UNCOMMONLY rusted all over…its going into an electrical;rust removing bath (first time i am doing that)…my wild guess is a #5 type 17 1940s…the missing brass makes me think WAR YEARS….the brass depth adjusting knob also has me baffled (WAR NEED??))…..i need help..its beat to hell so i am derusting cleaning and acquiring an (proper depth adj knob) going to sharpen and p[ut it all back together and see if i have anything good..PLEASE HELP if anybody knows anything..leerussell1964@gmail.com
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Just send you an email. Send me a couple of photos and I should be able to help.
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Hi Leonid and Bryant:
Just a quick comment regarding Stanley wartime bench planes. I recently acquired a Stanley #5 1/2 Type 17. It has the prototypical construction details of a Stanley wartime plane, although wartime planes can contain a hodge-podge of parts. I was fortunate enough that the plane was in “new old stock” condition, which implies all original parts. Not to many wartime collectors, to my benefit, ha. I appreciate the heft of the wartime planes, and I’m a WWII buff, and a user first, collector second. On the back of the lever cap, bottom middle, between two ribs, the patent number is cast in the configuration shown below:
PAT.
NO.
1918750
A “U” is cast in the top left hand corner and “5” is cast in the top middle, just below the lever cam spring clamp. The lever cap has a kidney-shaped cap hole and the background color in the notched rectangle on front is standard Stanley orange, old but very well preserved. The tote and knob screws are of steel, and the tote toe screw is a Phillip’s head. The ogee-shaped frog has no markings, casting, etc., of any kind, and no hole, tapped or otherwise, for the frog adjusting screw. No frog adjusting screw hole is present in the bottom casting.
I’m no expert. I can barely spell Stanley. Just wanted to chime in with some additional information regarding Stanley wartime bench planes. Hope this helps with your plane type I.D.
Merry Holidays!
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Did Stanley make planes for other companies? I have a “Richards-Conover” plane that in most ways appears to be a #7, type 6 – 8. I’ve been unable to figure out if they copied the design, or if Stanley made it for them. Here’s a couple of pics, if that helps:
Thanks,
Scott
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Hi Scott. Stanley did make planes for a lot of other companies, but not for Richards-Conover as far as I know. I believe Union made the Rich-Con planes, which is more consistent with the twisted top of the lateral lever on yours.
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Great. Thanks for the information. So far, I really like the plane.
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Did Stanley make non Bailey no3 type 13 1925-28?
Background: I’m looking at buying my first set of Hand planes and found this No 3 online, but it doesn’t specify Bailey or not. Also looking at a No 6 wartime plane. Seller wants 130$ (canadian) for both shipped and are in great condition.
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I don’t believe the Four Square or Defiance planes they made were marked Bailey, but am not 100% sure. Nevertheless, $130 Canadian ($104 USD) seems very high for a #3 and #6.
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I have a plane that measures out to a 5 1/4 with just STANLEY in front of the knod. No other markings except STANLEY on the lateral adjustment lever.
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I have a Bailey plane #7 without “Stanley” stamped anywhere. It has three pat. dates. What can you tell me about this plane?
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It’s a Stanley Bailey Jointer plane made between 1910 and 1924.
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I have a 608 with a patent date of Apr.2-95. I believe it’s a Bedrock? It doesn’t have flat sides, they are rounded like a Bailey.l
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Yes, you most likely have a Type 3 (1900-1908) Bed Rock. Bed Rock planes had rounded sides before about 1911.
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What type and year of plane is one with “U”, Made in USA, and an “8” stamped behind the frog? I also don’t get that the frog in this one is made of what looks like stamped steel, and it and the lever cap are blue.
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Sounds like a 1960s model.
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I just found an old Bailey style plane, I don’t know much about it, even if it’s a Stanley or not. But there are some markings behind the frog, which by the way, isn’t cast iron, the markings are a U, Made in USA, and an 8. Any info on the plane?
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How rare is a Stanley/ Bailey #5 that has a brass sole and frog? I’ve never seen 1 before and seem to not even able to find any info about it. What are your thoughts? Thanks!
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Never say never, but I’ve never seen, heard of, or found any documentation on a brass sole and frog Stanley plane. PLEASE email me photos at vatoolworks@gmail.com. I suspect it’s either not a Stanley or perhaps some sort of user modified frankenplane. Again, would love some pics!
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I just saw one for sale on eBay. It is a custom made plane. Very cool but not made by Stanley.
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Hi…I just a bought a #3 plane. The bed and frog is painted maroon I think and the frog has no adjuster. The brass adjuster is solid rather the usual type. Any idea what this could be?
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Sounds like a 1970’s or 80’s vintage by the color.
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Thanks. I’m researching as much as I can right now. I don’t want to feel buyers remorse.
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Look for the pre-WWII Stanley planes. Ideally those made from about 1910 to 1930. That was Stanley’s heyday and planes of that era are superior to just about anything you will find. Unless, of course, you want to invest in a new Lie Nielson or Veritas.
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Due to a shipping error (was supposed to receive a Stanley #5), I received a jointer plane and the only marking is No 7 on the toe versus the heel as mentioned above. It may turn out where I get the #5 mailed out to me and get to keep the No 7. So I’m just trying to figure out what I may have on my hands. Worst case scenario and it’s not a Stanley but I still have a jointer that i can fiddle with.
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Would need a lot more information to verify if Stanley or not. Check for dates behind the frog and dates and logo on the lateral adjustment lever.
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I have an old Bailey marked plane with no Stanley markings. It is marked #5 and there are no patent markings. It has a keyhole shaped lever cap screw hole but has a Craftsman marking. Is the Craftsman marked lever cap a replacement of the original? Can I assume this is a pre-1918 Bailey plane?
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Yes, the lever cap is a replacement. You can find the proper replacement on eBay or at a variety of online parts sources.
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My mistake, it has Stanley, with no date, stamped on the lateral adjustment lever.
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Sounds more like a Type 7 or earlier model (pre-1900)
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Thank you for for your help Bryant. I am ordering a replacement lever cap.
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Hello. I have an 18″ Bailey hand plane, with #6 stamped on the back end, and patent dates of March 25-02, and August 19-02. Very heavy, guessing its cast iron. Any idea what this would be worth?
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Prices vary greatly depending on condition.
http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_sacat=0&_nkw=Stanley%206%20plane&LH_Complete=1&LH_Sold=1&rt=nc&_trksid=p2045573.m1684
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I just came across a Stanley #193 would like to Know year and value ?
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They were made from 1933 to 1943. Check eBay for recent sold prices to get a sense of value.
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Hi I have a bailey no. 6 with a Stanley lever cap. Is this original or is this a replacement piece
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Bailey planes made after 1925 had lever caps marked Stanely
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I Have a Stanley Bailey No 7 “Pat No 1918750” is marked on the back of the Frog. MADE IN USA is behind the knob and BAILEY is in front of the knob. Has anyone got any idea of its worth. All round good condition and Stanley USA Blade
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Hi again, the blade adjusting nut is black plastic or possibly Bakelite…….. I’m at a loss Please help
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Sounds like it dates from the early to mid 1940s. Value depends greatly on condition. I recommend checking recently sold #7 planes on eBay to get a good sense of what ones like yours are selling for.
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Many Thanks Bryant, it good to have its approximate date and I will indeed check ebay.
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Hello from Australia, I have just been given a bailey/stanley no8 23 7/8 inches long with a patent date just in front of handle saying “us pat apr 19-10 its smooth bottomed and apart from a build up of wood dust its in great condition . could you have at a guess the build date and type?
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Type 13 or 14, 1925 to 1930
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thanks for that. only other mark i could find on it is a 2 stamped under handle
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Hi, I have two Stanley No 2 planes, both appear to be of similar vintage (early 1900s) – the castings look identical except that while one of them has ‘No 2’ cast in front of the knob, the other has no number on the casting – is this one a true Stanley or something else?
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Would need more information to say for sure. Stanley didn’t start marking the number on their planes until about 1885, so if yours pre-dates that, it could still be a Stanley. Try this link to help you out. http://www.visuance.com/pfree/index.php?q=aHR0cDovL2h5cGVya2l0dGVuLmNvbS90b29scy9zdGFubGV5X2JlbmNoX3BsYW5lL2RhdGluZ19mbG93Y2hhcnQucGhwI1R5cGVzIDEtMjA%3D#Types 1-20
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I have a Stanley No. 2 type 13
with the letter U stamped on frog..is this common ?
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it is so hard to find the facts on No.2s…they don,t follow the same information of the others
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Try contacting Mark Nickel at https://www.plane-dealer.com/ He’s an expert on #2 planes.
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Yes, that’s common, but don’t ask me what it means :)
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Hi, I just purchased a bailey no.7 today and I’m a bit at a loss for type.
BAILEY on the toe, MADE IN CAN behind the front knob, NO7 on the heel.
STANLEY on lateral adjuster
brass adjustment wheel
STANLEY, MADE IN CAN on top of blade
heavier casting
no ridge on front edge of toe or rear edge of heel
STANLEY on lever cap with orange background
Type17?
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The lack of a ridge at the toe and heel sounds like it might be earlier. Can you email a couple of photos to vatoolworks@gmail.com?
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You’re fast Bryant!
I’ll get some pics off to you first thing in the a.m.
Thanks
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Hi, to add to the above post/question,
hardwood handles, not rosewood and the lever cap is nickel plated
Cheers
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Is it possible to get replacement hardwood handles for a Bailey 5?
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Ebay is your best bet for replacement parts.
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I have A Bailey transition plane..it has the solid brass adjustment knob with Woods Name rubbed out..it’s 9 3/8 long..No stamp on front or back on the wood base and no adjustment lever..is this Rare..very hard to find any information or pictures of the early types..would appreciate any help..thx
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Not likely, the transition planes are neither rare nor particularly valuable.
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Hi,
I can get my hands on a Stanley 5 1/2, but judging from the pictures I dont know whether it is a modern or vintage type.
– Handles look to be wooden, not plastic.
– From the rear tote, some V-shaped ribs extend to the heel of the plane, reinforcement against bending? I haven’t seen that on vintage models, but can’t seem to find out when this was first introduced.
Most plane dating charts only consider #4’s
Thanks in advance!
Martijn
The Netherlands
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The 5-1/2 plane was only made until 1962, however, there were no V shaped ribs on that model. Sounds like what you’re looking at might be a different model.
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Thats strange…
It clearly says Bailey Made in England at the front knob, and 5-1/2 in beteen the V shaped ribs…
Is there any way I can upload a picture?
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Ah, but you didn’t mention that it was made in England. Depending on your definition of modern and vintage, it was likely made after 1970.
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Oh, I’m sorry, I didn’t know that was relevant :)
Do you know any other characteristics to look for to more closely determine its age? Very little can be found about 5-1/2’s online… that, or I’m horrible at searching…
Many thanks
Martijn
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Here’s a page with the info you’re looking for.
https://www.timetestedtools.net/2016/02/20/stanley-english-type-study-draft/
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Thanks a lot! That was exactly what I was looking for!
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A large No.1 in casting under the rear tote??? Does anyone know what this means?
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I have a Type 9 no. 5 with this as well. Would like to know the significance of this. Mine also has a “2“ on top of the tote and a “3” on the outside of the left wall.
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Almost certainly random pattern numbers. Has no relevant meaning today.
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I purchased a low angle block plane, the blade says stanley 9 1/2 but there are no other marks except usa at the heel of the bed. I am trying to date it. Help please.
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https://virginiatoolworks.com/tools/stanley-planes/date-your-block-plane-type-study/
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I just came across a stanley bailey no 5 plane with no stanley logo on lever cap. would this be original or a cap off of something else. tyia!!!
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Caps prior to 1925 had no logo.
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I ran across a stanley No. 4 at at an antique shop…I wasnt able to look too closely as I couldnt find anyone to open the case but…what i could tell…it had darker but not painted knob and tote, a pretty small adjustment nut, no. 4 IN FRONT of the knob and Bailey behind. Did not appear to have any patents anywhere. I didn’t notice if the knob was raised or not. Think it was. Was definitely NOT the flatter, wider knob though. Is there anything there to work with as far as guessing vintage? They wanted 38 bucks.
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Sorry to reply to my own comment but forgot to mention it did have “stanley” on the cap iron without any paint.
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Best I can tell you with that info is it dates sometime between 1930 and 1961. My guess is it’s probably late 1950s based on your description of the knob and tote.
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Tryin to find a make And model. 9-3/8” sole blue painted interior, black handles, yellow chip breaker and frog, lever cap iron no spring. “MADE IN USA” raised just behind front handle. C73 stamped on the sole directly under the frog. 2”blade
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I have a bailey NO5 type 9 I picked up a few years ago. The patent dates are March 25-02 and Aug 19-02. Since all the time at home I am thinking of restoring it for use. I have no idea of the value. The handle is broke but has been glued and the knob has a small split. Bedsides that just a lot of surface rust and a deep cleaning should bring it back in shape. Should I restore it? If I read your information right it was made somewhere between 1092 and 1907. I don’t want to destroy a piece of history.
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These are very common. Stanley made millions of them. Restoring it is encouraged.
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Thank You for the information!
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Looking at a plane with no markings in the base. Suggesting a type 1-4. It does have a lateral adjustment with two patent dates suggesting a type 5. It is 2 3/8 wide and 10 inches long. Does this make it a 4 1/2?
Is this a case of mixed and matched parts, or is it just a variance of feature combination in the 4 1/2 model that the #4 model did not have?
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Type studies are approximate. Most likely a no. 4-1/2 Type 5.
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Hi, I’m looking at a #6 Stanley Bailey plane and the seller is saying it’s a Type 15, 1931 or 32. I’m having trouble verifying this with the pictures he’s sent.
It has no patent numbers stamped on it, Bailey is stamped in front of the knob on the toe and Made in USA is in front of the frog but behind the Knob. On the adjustment lever, it has Stanley vertically. Looks like original rosewood handles. Is there differences in dating a no 6?
Is this a type 15 #6? and is it worth the purchase?
Thanks.
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Hi, I’m looking at a #6 plane. Seller is saying it’s a Type 15 but I’m having trouble verifying this with the study.
It has no patent number.
Toe has no raised flattened edge.
Bailey is stamped in front of the knob on the toe.
Made in USA is stamped in front of the Frog but behind the Knob
Stanley stamps are verticle on the lever.
Handles are rosewood on raised socket for the Knob.
Is this a type 15 #6? and is it worth purchasing?
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I saw a Stanley no. 7 today that was stamped in rear and just above the no. 7 stamp was another stamp REG. And is stamped Bailey in the front with a low knob. What does the REG mean?
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I’ve never heard of that. Perhaps someone else here has.
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Hi Bryant,
I picked up a number 5 that has “Bailey” cast in front of the knob, a ringed based for said knob, both the tote and knob are held on with screws, kidney bean lever cap, non-adjustable frog (no adjustment screw), and a steel depth adjuster knob and “Stanley” stamped on the lateral adjuster. It also seems disproportionately heavy compared to my #4’s. Is this perhaps, a “frankenplane”, or early post war production with leftover parts? The total lack of brass has me wonderi
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Sounds like a typical Type 17 war era plane to me.
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That’s fine, it’s a great shooting plane
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Hi Bryant,
I have a No. 5 that I think is a Type 5, but i’m getting some conflicting markings. It’s possibly a mut! All the markings on the bed indicate it is a type 5 (no pat dates, No. 5 up front, no ring around knob). But the frog is confusing. The front edge of the frog is straight/solid with no grooves. No frog adjustment screw. It has a 2-piece lateral adjustment lever with no “stanley” or pat dates on the lateral adjustment lever. The lateral adjustment lever also looks like one solid piece that is twisted 90deg at the tip. It is not the typical lever that has the “shark fin” coming out of the bottom. It also has a little more clearance on the cutout near the pin on the adjustment lever, it is not the typical “first lateral” type 5 style that seems to hug the lever closely. Is it possible this is not a stanley? The iron has the boxed stanley stamp and nothing else, but that could have been swapped.
Thanks!
Philip
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I have a 24″ wood plane with corrugated bottom. Reading through your type identification process I thought it was a Stanley type 4. Reading further I noticed the comment about the shallow groves in the plane under the frog. Could you possibly help identify it from pictures of it. Any help would be appreciated.
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This should help. Scroll down to the image and explanation of the frog seats. http://www.supertool.com/StanleyBG/stan1.htm
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I have a Stanley plane with original box (I don’t think it has ever been used). Base has Stanley and Made in USA cast into it. The box label reads “Plane, Type I, Class A, Stanley #9 1/2G.: The body has 9 1/2 stamped on the left side. The label also reads “F.S.N. 5110-180-0831 and GS-OOS-86709. Any idea the age and value? Thanks.
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Post 1947 model. Check ebay for recent sold prices.
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I have a Winchester W 5 1/2 plane with a corrugated sole which has Winchester on the blade. On the inset face of the frog is the letter B. No other numbers or markings are found.
Trying to nail down the age and value for a friend. Does the B stand for Bailey or Bedrock?
Comments and suggestions please.
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Probably just a pattern mark, but I can’t say for sure.
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Hey I have a Stanley it says no4 maybe 1/4 can’t read completely and looks similar to a type 17 but also has made in the usa stamped on the front between no and 4 can’t find this in any the photos I’ve seen of any of these planes is this unusual?
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I have a Stanley Bailey number 4, plane. It is 9.25″ long, and I believe it is a smoothing plane. It has a patent number of:
1918750.
Can you tell me anything about it like age, etc.?
Thank you
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Quickest way to date it is here – https://www.hyperkitten.com/tools/stanley_bench_plane/dating_flowchart.php#Types%201-20
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I have a corrugated plane with a no. 5 on toe and no other markings, what year is that and is it a stanley?
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No way to know from this limited information, Stanley marked their planes with just the model number from about 1885 to 1902, but the number 5 was usually marked at the heel.
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